Robotech RPG Tactics, Timeline & Some Numbers

To make a long story short, I was looking for some information about Robotech RPG Tactics, and because I like to collect information collected the following. Some of which may help explain or illustrate….well I’m not sure what it will answer for you.

All of this information came from the Kickstarter page and updates.

May 20, 2013

Robotech RPG Tactics Kickstarter ends with 1.4 million (yes million) dollars in pledges and 5,342 backers

July 10, 2013

Surveys are sent out around this time, July 10 is the day mine is completed.

October 9, 2014

Wave 1 of two waves of Robotech RPG Tactics arrives at my doorstep. I start writing about it on the 10th, here. Keep in mind this is when I got my product. I live in the same state as Palladium, Michigan.

An Update Titled “Rest of World Ships” dated May 13, 2015 is presumably when the world’s order was shipped.

June 7, 2015

The first of two updates (my thoughts here), which consist of a history of Palladium Books and Robotech RPG Tactics, the blame game on why Wave 2 is not out and why Wave 1 was the way it was. Read here about my thoughts on the miniatures and rulebook and gameplay.

At this time, Palladium Books has no concrete information to share about Wave 2. However, they do have new miniatures for backers to buy and for GenCon. Also introduced at this time, the idea of changing scales for future products. The idea is initially floated as a “what if” and soon turns into a “poll.” Unfortunately, changing the scale has dominated the discussion on the Kickstarter. Given that the initial product has yet to be finished, discussion about future product and what size it should be, should be a non-issue for backers. Alas, too many backers are discussing the size of non-existent product instead of what has been done with their money.

As part of the new pieces and exclusives GHQ miniatures is brought on board. This could be interesting especially down the road.

June 28, 2015

That is today, just to bring this up to date. There has been no update for the Kickstarters, but the weekly Palladium Update included screen shots of unit cards for the convention exclusives and more talk of “excited about Wave 2” and “buy this other stuff.”

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At this moment Palladium Books has not publically released any information about how much the Kickstarter cost them. In the June 7 updates the number 150,000 for shipping for Wave 1 alone came up. Along with an estimate of how much the whole thing might have cost, 500 to 900 thousand. I would like to see real numbers.

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The Kickstarter campaign had 5,342 backers at least that is the number given. The breakdown on pledges is as follows:

$15 343 backers

$25 67 backers

$40 14 backers

$70 95 backers

$80 102 backers

$130 100 backers

$140 3,000 backers

$260 1,322 backers

$520 185 backers

$3,500 3 backers

Total listed as backers via breakdown is 5,231. Not sure where the discrepancy lay, but I will use 5,231.

The entries in bold ($25, $40, and $70) are the only backers to receive their entire order. That is 176 backers out of 5,231.

Using the $140 level here is the breakdown on Wave 1 and Wave 2 from the October 19, 2014 Update “Wave One vs Wave Two.”

Wave One contains the following items:

  • 1x Robotech RPG Tactics Main Boxed Game (contains 5 Valkyrie Fighters, 5 Valkyrie Guardians, 6 Valkyrie Battloids, 2 Tomahawk Destroids, 2 Defender Destroids, 12 Regult Battlepods, 1 Glaug Officer’s Battlepod, 1 Quel-Regult Recon Pod, and 1 Quel-Gulnau Recovery Pod)
  • 1x Battle Cry Art Print
  • 4x Valkyrie Fighters
  • 4x Valkyrie Guardians
  • 4x Valkyrie Battloids
  • 2x Spartan Destroids
  • 2x Phalanx Destroids
  • 12x Regult Battlepods
  • 4x Artillery Regult Battlepods
  • 1x Quel-Regult Recon Pod
  • 1x Glaug Officer’s Battlepod
  • 1x Quel-Gulnau Recovery Pod

Wave Two will contain the following items:

  • 1x Valkyrie Fighter Rick Hunter
  • 1x Valkyrie Guardian Rick Hunter
  • 1x Valkyrie Battloid Rick Hunter
  • 1x Valkyrie Fighter Roy Fokker
  • 1x Valkyrie Guardian Roy Fokker
  • 1x Valkyrie Battloid Roy Fokker
  • 2x Super Valkyrie Fighters
  • 2x Super Valkyrie Guardians
  • 2x Super Valkyrie Battloids
  • 2x SF-3A Lancer II Space Fighters
  • 2x QF-3000 Ghosts
  • 1x Khyron Glaug Officer’s Battlepod
  • 1x Miriya Queadluun-Rau
  • 3x Gnerl Fighters
  • 3x Nousjadeul-Ger Power Armor
  • 3x Queadluun-Rau Power Armor

There were add-ons that were also divided into Waves as follows:

Add-Ons

The following Add-Ons will be shipped in Wave One:

  • UEDF Decals
  • UEDF Token Pack
  • UEDF Dice Pack
  • Destroid Pack
  • Spartan Pack
  • Valkyrie Wing
  • Zentraedi Dice Pack
  • Zentraedi Token Pack
  • Zentraedi Decals
  • Command Pack
  • Artillery Battlepods
  • Regult Battlepod Squadron
  • Battle Foam Bag

The following Add-Ons will be shipped in Wave Two:

  • Rick Hunter
  • Roy Fokker
  • Armored Valkyries
  • Experimental Battloid
  • SF-3A Lancer II
  • QF-3000 Ghost Drone
  • YF-4 Valkyrie
  • VEF-1/VF-1D Valkyrie Pack
  • Super Valkyrie Wing
  • MKII Monster
  • Khyron Glaug Battlepod
  • Miriya Queadluun-Rau
  • Gnerl Fighters
  • Zentraedi Male Power Armor Pack
  • Zentraedi Infantry
  • Queadluun-Rau
  • Glaug-Eldare
  • Glaug-Eldare Squadron
  • Objective Pack 1
  • Objective Pack 2
  • SDF-1 Resin Bases
  • SDF-1

There is plenty missing from my timeline, mostly updates from Palladium Books that talk about the decision to split into two waves, production and shipping mistakes and errors, blame game, distraction via offers of new stuff not included in the Kickstarter, discussion of product not available or offered in the Kickstarter, and pleas for patience, understanding, and unilateral decisions-the GenCon 2014 vote where not voting counted as a yes vote to “allow” Palladium Books to take product to GenCon to sell before backers received theirs stands out.

What Palladium Books has not been good at is clear communication. This is something that they should be working on, especially now when communication with vast numbers is done easily. Putting to bed backer concerns about Wave 2 would be the first thing to do. Otherwise, rumor, conjecture, and innuendo will continue to fester along with the hits to Palladium Books and Robotech RPG Tactics reputation/image.

As I said at the beginning, I don’t know what you will get out of this. When I started I was looking for some numbers, mostly do with where the money went. What I ended up was this, which is just as eye-opening to me as I imagine the numbers will be-if I ever get them.

Finally, I contacted Kickstarter because I wanted to know what they defined as “Good Faith Effort” and if a complaint was to be filed who did what. As expected, Kickstarter hopes that everyone will do their part: keep people up to date and provide the product. However, Kickstarter does not get involved, but hopes that everything works out without legal issues.

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